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Nights club and dancing Contents Night-clubs vs other places to meet girls
Adapted from Ross Jeffries' newsletter): "Bars, night-clubs and "night" spots? Women in these places are far more "uptight", far more likely to be very picky about who'll they'll talk to, and plus you'll probably have to spend some money to get in or stay in. Far better places to meet girls are libraries, parks, coffee-shops and various spots around college campuses.Think back a minute to when YOU were in college or high school. Did you enjoy studying? Did you like cramming? Or would you welcome virtually any opportunity to put the damn book down and do something more fun, like talk to an interesting, mesmerising stranger?" Should you still opt for the classic "clubbing" (harvesting night clubs for girls), keep in mind that your chances are much higher in clubs with mainstream music (played by most radio stations), where the girls are much more likely to hang out secretly wanting to meet a man who would give them the satisfaction of a lifetime, as opposed to clubs with rave and techno-music, where a lot of the girls are there just to get high by listening and dancing to the hypnotic beat (with the possibly added effect of using drugs), which often makes them pretty much ignore everything else around them - including you. Update How to switch to the right mindset
See all those guys - standing or sitting, waiting? Now you know what they're thinking? In an everyday situation, those same guys are not specifically waiting for something to happen, they are simply oblivious.But what do you do? That's right, again, you go get all the girls In night-club situation, don't join all the goofs standing or sitting and just watching the girls on the dance-floor! All that herd of chumps waiting and twiddling their thumbs is known as "death row" Once you're in the door, it's action-action-action
and worshipping the 3s rule. Sounds tough? No,
you'll actually make it easier on yourself, especially considering the
alternative - going home alone with a headache, remembering all the beautiful
girls you only SAW and sleeping with your hand:) Asking for a dance
Ideally you should never encounter a situation where you'd have to "ask" for a dance. It is best to try any of the alternatives provided below before resorting to the demeaning and supplicating "Would you like to dance with me?". method 1 You can use Mr Smooth to start a dance with a group of girls. Or be on the dance-floor by yourself manoeuvring into position with a girl / a group of girls dancing by themselves. method 2 you can dance near the edge of the dance-floor and pull any girls passing by to dance with you. Or you can act like you already know the girl, take her hand, nod towards the dancefloor and say "well, come on!:)". If she seems reluctant, you go "oh, come on!:)". If she says "I'm tired", BOOM, you're in a conversation (you didn't even notice that, did you?:). "Tired? Well, not that you mention it, this place is a little crowded/noisy. Why don't we go to someplace quieter where we can talk and you can relax:)" If you let go of her hand in the meantime, grab it again and guide her to a nice and quiet little corner you've already checked out before:) method 3 you can go ask a girl for a dance. If she says yes, great! If however she refuses, you're out of luck. You can try and salvage the situation by joining her for a conversation but she has refused you once already so a come-back will be that much harder to do. Or you can just move on, but remember - having other girls see you get rejected diminishes your chances with them even further. Which could result in the ultimate humiliation of moving from girl to girl and asking for a dance and being turned down all the way until you run out of girls:) Ok, the latter is unlikely, someone WILL eventually dance with you, but most probably that someone will be UGLY. Ideally, rejection should never happen, for if you've had a chance to talk to her in a meaningful manner before, she is already dying to have a little kino and grinding with you on the dance-floor:) But amongst the deafening and blinding circumstances of a typical night-club, this can be hard to do. So she just takes you by face-value, and its gonna be a yes or no. Also, when doing an all-out "asking for a dance", some annoying factors might come to play, over which you have very little control owing to the approach you have chosen. She might be tired, waiting for a friend in a designated spot, just doesn't dance, her boyfriend is just around the corner. All these factors really have no bearing should you choose an approach which also incorporates demonstrating value and personality (beyond having the guts to ask for a dance). In which case "waiting for a friend" or "being tired" are quickly out the window... plus some more time with you and the "boyfriend" might share the same route:) But without having been able build rapport with her and make her crave for you, you really don't have too many options - maybe thank her, maybe ask her "how about later?" (yea right) or ask her "mind if I join you for some conversation?", nah, these all suck to high heaven, better just move on to the next girl. Theoretically, you might still stand a chance with her once she sees the girl that was smart enough to agree to dance with you having the time of her life:) But whatever you do, don't stand there and aggravate her by arguing with her as to why she won't dance with you. Forget her, move on, there's a better-looking and smarter girl (for she knows to appreciate your invitation:) right behind her, and YOU are what she's been waiting for all her life:) Or at least this evening About dancing If dancing isn't specifically what you came to do in a night-club, then dancing isn't really what you should be concerned with. Dance your dance, then extract her to a quiet and private place and start working your magic:) You could of course get some initial attraction already going on the dance floor if your moves are good - smiles, eye-contact, maybe even some initial kino - but then again, maybe not. You know your stuff and you know it works, but dancing can only be helpful at best, it is not the way of achieving your goal. So have fun dancing, but keep your ultimate goal (be it a #close, a *close, feeling her up or tonguing her down, making her come right there in the club or taking her home with you:) in mind. kino girls. They LOVE being touched and they love to touch you in return. Should you happen to hit the dance-floor with a girl like that - don't leave, keep dancing, have fun holding and grinding each other:) Once the touching and kissing gets really intimate, you can change venues and no excess talk is needed:) Chances even are, she woulnd't be very receptive to any "talking" strategies anyway - while you are busy patterning or eliciting values, all she is thinking is: "Why isn't he touching me? Why does he just keep talking?". As for the rest of the girls, the amount of time you need to spend on the dance-floor depends on how well you dance. If you're good, dancing is an easy way of attracting girls - you can easily slip in with the most beautiful of girls on the dance-floor plus have everyone else on and off the floor check you out. If however you are average, do as suggested in the beginning - do your dance, then move to a quieter place to have a soul-to-soul, heart-to-heart and eventually a body-to-body discussion:) * NOTE* if man can't dance, he probably can't fuck either. Being able to dance well demonstrates that you are comfortable in your body and know how to use it with precision and control. same applies to woman if a woman can't dance - she generally can't fuck very well either. it's one of my tests for fuckability." Slow dancing Slow dancing is a most excellent way of getting some more intimate kino started. If you hear a slow-dance coming up, don't waste any time. Take the girl you're presently with to the dance-floor (unless you're in the middle of a pattern and she is about to fly higher and higher:) or if you're presently in that 3 second period of having #- and *closed one girl and not yet approached another (you haven't just been "hanging" around, not able to choose who to approach, have you?:), either immediately return to the girl you just closed or scope for a suitable target in your vicinity. While-slow dancing, be bold yet sensitive.
Be bold - hold her really close to your body, start rubbing her back with
your hand. Be sensitive - watch her reactions, if she starts to rub your
shoulders, neck or chest or starts grinding her crotch against yours (hmm:),
its once again time for you to
be bold - begin kissing her neck
work your way up behind the ear, then the ear lobe, then closer to the
cheeks, then lips
:) At this pointing you can just pretty much forget
about patterns, eliciting values and what not. You can either stay on
the dance-floor some more and grind it slowly and keep kissing even during
a fast song or move smoothly to a more private corner for some more petting.
Eventually you could check if the bath-room is available:) Or suggest
a change of venue:) Fast dance to slow dance You've seen them before - a guy and a girl on the dance-floor, ignoring all the other people diligently wiggling to the fast pace of the music and having a slow dance of their own, touching, kissing. The setting was a disco playing regular fast paced disco dance music. The guy and the girl make eye contact, and start dancing facing each other. He mirrors her dance moves, making eye contact. This happens for about 2 or 3 minutes. He puts his arm on her side, to her back, lightly, and is dancing, still following her pace. He puts the other arm on her other side to her back, but he does not pull her in. Now he slowly runs both hands up her body, to her armpits, and then up her arms (he raises her arms up in the air). Then when he reaches the tops of her hands, which are stretched out in the air, he (slowly), runs his hands down her body. His hands slowly slide down till they reach her ass. He doesn't grope it directly, but just they are above the top of her buttcheeks. The whole thing above (hands up to her hands, down to ass, is slow, takes about 1 or 2 minutes to travel the whole distance. Also, now, he has slowed down his dancing, and is not really following the music anymore, and she has slowed down too, (he slowed her down by mirroring her pace, and then slowing down as his hands were running up/down). [3 minutes] While his hands are on her ass, he moves his head in, and breathes softly on her neck. He does not try to kiss her. His hands move up/down her back slowly, while his head moves around her neck/side of neck, him breathing slowly, closely. The chicks eyes start to close. She is going into trance. [3 minutes] He moves his head and hands down her body, (still facing her), he like crouches down, slowly, as his hands travel down to her legs, then slowly moves up again, to her ass, and he is standing again, and is breathing on her neck/back again. [3 minutes] He now repeats the hand up/down things above from the top of this list, and the breathing a couple times. Each time he pulls her in closer. She is going way into trance now. [4 minutes] The last time he does the up/down hands thing, he raises his hands up to her hands in the air, and lets go, but leaving his hands up. This is her cue to now do the same thing to him, and she does. She runs her hands up/down his body slowly now, like he did to her before a few times. She clearly likes this, a smile is on her face... He turns her around (so her back faces his chest), and he does the same things again with the hands, this time from behind.. she gets confused, when he tries to turn her, so he just tells her to turn around, she loses trance state... He does NOT go for her tits/cunt, etc..nothing overtly sexual.. She is back in trance again. [3 minutes] He turns her around again, so they are facing each other, and he is breathing on her neck/face. Now she is mirroring him and doing the same thing, breathing on his face/neck. This goes on a long time.he makes her wait for the kiss, and she is goes more into trance, she is just hanging on to him now..he does not rush things at all. [3 minutes] He starts breathing more on her cheeks, face, but does not kiss there... He continues until she is doing the same [2 minutes].. She is doing the same now, and their lips are breathing on each others face. This continues for what I thought is a really long time before the kiss starts [4 minutes] Finally, they slowly move closer lips together from each others lips. The lips lock, they kiss, and keep kissing... The kissing goes on for a really long time (15 -20 minutes)... Around then I leave with my chick, and don't see the rest of it (I suspect he just took her home ;-) ) Maniac's analysis. There was no talking during the whole PU (expect where he makes her turn around), just the way he touched her got her going. Firstly, he did NOT rush things. Also, it was obvious to see her states changing when he was doing the Kino. He did not advance until her state was ready. This was obvious from looking at her (her eyes closing, her `hanging' on him, her following his dance pace, and NOT the music when he slowed down.). He made sure this happened before going to the next step. She was also helping him by following his `body rapport'. Some chicks will/won't in my experience. Also, he did nothing overtly groping/sexual, ie. He didn't kiss her neck/ears before the first kiss (not sure if this is good/bad yet..I think best to wait until she accepts you by the "real" kiss first, then move to those other parts) [There's a choice to be made here - if a possibility of slight resistance can be expected, an initial neck/ear kiss is useful in slowly breaking down that resistance. If however not much resistance can be foreseen, abstaining from any kissing can really build up anticipation and pressure, so once the kiss finally takes place, it'll truely be a ride through the seven gates of heaven:) - tony] Didn't grab her ass in a groping way until the kiss/touch tits..etc. It was all very smooth and passionate looking until the kiss, without sexual groping/kissing neck/ears.. That is good, because it didn't scare her. He also took his time..the whole kino session was like 30 minutes from start to end. He was going REAL SLOW, even his dance pace didn't follow the music..very SLOW MOTION movements, as the chick dephased from the music rhythm, to his. He was very conscious too what he was doing, eyes open, looking like an engineer as he worked the chick into trance.He'd close them though when she could see his face. It was clear he had done this before and was following the "cookbook". He also made her wait for the kiss a bit, longer than I expected. It was good, he kept on touching her, / breathing really close to her, and that probably made her even more horny, making sure there would be no kiss rejection." There you have it, from "never-met" to "newly-wed" in 30 minutes:) After the dance Goes without saying that you won't end the dance with saying "thanks" and walking away. You didn't come here to wiggle a little on the dance-floor:) But you also won't let her do the same. After the song ends and she seems to be willing to continue dancing with you, and unless she is a kino-girl (see "About dancing"), just take her hand and lead her to the table of your choice, somewhere where its relatively quiet and private. If it seems like she is about to bail, take her hand and say / whisper in her ear something in the lines of "I want to talk to you about something". Most probably she's gonna ask "about what?", just reply "I'll tell you when we sit down". From here on you can choose any of the strategies described in this guide. 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